seeing this journalism age where it goes right side effects targets is an in depth coverage. how is any of this accept it? isn't that acceptable? i'll just say it was teens across the world. when you closer to the heart of the story, if it was a political stand off in georgia, the government says a bill. it's trying to pause for a 2nd time. would regulate phone influence and protect the countries silver unsafe . the critics of protesting, it was crushed freedom. is this a crisis that will the royal george's fit to join the european union? this is inside story, the other the and welcome to the program. i'm laura kyle. georgia. is that a political cross rides? there's widespread angle on the street. so for a bill it's 6,

the cub foreign funding of non governmental organizations. the prime minister says it's necessary to block external influence as the process to say the legislation would finance critics of the government ahead of parliamentary elections in october demonstrations last year. force the governing georgian dream party to drop an earlier version of the bill. the crisis is undermining the countries i'm fission to join the european union. and the books leaders have criticized the so called for an agents bill on prompting georgia candidate states as last december. they said they expect the quote, the state to carry out traditional and electro reforms and improve press freedoms. will impact all these issues and just a moment for the experts. but for us, this report by send to them on a protest against the so called for an agents bill are growing in georgia. the opposition is united with demonstrators saying it's a par, terry. and, and similar to a low rush it uses to crush, to send this to me. uh,

most i want to show the position of my family no, to russia, a pulse and futures. and you are because we need the european justice and european order, where the system so if the people are not the other way around, the system doesn't serve the people. the proposed law would require organizations receiving more than 20 percent of their funding from abroad to register as foreign agents or face spines and the governing party. georgia dream has organized riley use of its own supporters say it's necessary to protect georgia from harmful outside influences that could undermine traditional values and or mom or in a sense of what month aligned mother tongue and face of the pellets of our identity . one, i'd never say no to my identity. earlier this month, a parole erupt in parliament during debates on the little other side of how he did divisions up the come the european union as war and the passing. the bill could undermine georgia's bid to join the block. the country was granted candidate status

in december and most georgia and voters are in favor of membership. the government has a majority in parliament and could push the bill through without opposition support . and it has the most override any presidential veto. but many in georgia are concerned that this little could have major implications for how the country is governed in the future. and whether that future will include being part of the european union. since and monahan al jazeera for inside story, or without college you, the shop of all of a is outside the parliament in georgia is capital to please see my politicians on to facing the bill. so why near the palm and building right now? nothing indicates that the georgia and capital has been shaken 5 months of all positions process and the last 2 weeks. but more protests are expected later on today as call them and says, approving the 2nd of 3 readings of the controversial for an influence transparency . know some preparations are in the way for it right now at georgia dream policy trying to adopt the same. the last chair, buddy coles major pros has that 10 bon,

and so the drop have to be revised to many brief assign, really fonts on, but in fines. it was post photos that the forward his didn't have bonds and the idea to adopted the latest valley here in police was actually in support or below. it was organized by the georgia dream policy, more than 150000 people gathered here. but a position media outlets reported most of those people were a state workers and they have been brought here from the georgia, the governing policy rules and years to register as being under the 4 influence. if they receive more than 20 percent of the funding from abroad, something the positions of hers is the cold of build the russian law as most squeezes. similar legislation to confound them. from critics. these people support georgia's european posts on the keys. the current government of trying to return the country to russia's all that they will in georgia to be part of the you on a european future for the country. reporting from the georgia and consul finished

with us or pop all of her inside story with us bringing all guests now and from to bc with joined by my m. last keys, a member of the georgia empowerment promoting the bill from brussels. 20 k. go dads, a fellow at jack to low institute and full of a minister of european integration of georgia and also from to basically with joins by member of parliament. katcha couldn't, i'd say, who is opposing the approval of this bill. great to have you will with us. all right, let's start with you. perhaps you can tell us why the government is so keen to post this bill when there's so much opposition to it. all right, thank you very much. so 1st of all, for giving me you've given me the opportunity to talk, so you're all this where it's all sides with the lloyd. so the, and the signal is ation, which has to be not less than a day. so this cost the work agent, 1st of all,

is not existing in the law. and the only think it is this law requires this transparency requires the organization and only non profit organizations, not say it isn't so declared, therefore income. if it's more than 20 percent, this is much nicer version of american barlow and based on you directed by the way you rock control on wednesdays in the process of acquiring the transference of last . as we speak, price already has it's in sports and more than $15.00 countries worldwide, including gus trend, the kind of dine cetera are discussing this. well, we're located in the trim live politically for dry location. and i have to also say that we are, is gone fine, not totally by the russian, but also the for georgia political situation which are the basis and the occupation, which is the, by russia, their forces in our country said want to, why this country. so this 70 station in order to gain back the power therefore lows

. so check up which is display is extremely important for our country. and this is also very timely initiated. so we okay. they say costs of paypal, they do okay. miami laid out the the, the reason is full. thank you very much. cash i can always already seen shaking your head back. can you lay out the reason for your physician to the floor? oh, thank you very much. actually, i'm sister, i'm sitting no just now on so i didn't get that. the mentor recession room where the very hard, the beach about the, about the russian law because of the largest citizen. so, i mean, they don't college law about the bill about the teams. parents to it, they call it a restaurant call. it's not about the transfer. say, i mean let me explain why it's about, it's are russian billy under all the guard between a venue shortly. he used to be the former prime minister of georgia. i'm here in the lot of money in early ninety's direct shop and yesterday key when he had the

big gathering the front of the georgia problem and from governmental gatherings. and made it very clear that the for see number one and a me is the, was the us on cold war part see, i mean, global work party, everybody who criticizes keen man for one 3rd j to be integrated into the ropes and union. and i mean, to call them like, you know, they want to drug georgette into the work. so it's about the new surely. who made the jo, political choice. and actually i called these deals russian billed to because, i mean it's about the jo poetic products. i mean, it's not about the transference because let me explain. so here i have, i'm in the session room. sorry. it does. it's very nice. so here is a note of what displays have been here to it. so the transference and regulation laws shouldn't by means this is a, apply no, you know, just the drops our report. no, it's report by o. c. oh dear. and it's then it's about like um, uh,

50 pages and it's not very well and very clearly that the slot is against the on demand footprints, that pulls out the rep and union and the freedom of association. and actually just today, the minister don't care. so it, it was a former minister of georgia for and as her as minister of georgia, he's in brussels anecdotally, our introducing upfront partners and brussel. they told him birth clearly that the is law about transfer. so which is not about trans paula zip transfer. and so because the gym legislation regularly they and lots of but we have a lot, a lot of those regulating the george and know the income or, and joe cents, civil society see, i mean, in the tax code and other okay, now you're transferring. so the agent, so if you turn them in your opinion, yeah, maybe it's very clear in georgia problem and we'll publish law. there will be no choice for your opinion to ration up for georgia and, you know,

the sort of the american before they were supposed to. again, this one parents wouldn't marry them to respond to that. does this now scott does as know the if it's paused when it's gotta george's membership to be your opinion. first of all we um, i am used to hearing the light from my colleague from a position because there's a fall and she's already brandy. does the liar because to one, she was the kind of a thing that the georgia saw of 2 companies function. and that's georgia has to georgia, rashid buying gold to both the kids. so if you create, forget the name, it is the yeah, you're a member to the section. yes, sure. the evidence was that the, the specialist read uh hire invoice. so that there is not the any evidence of it. so that's why i think and another one of the opposition representative, he had

a transformed old expected jake location of the main sal assigned the resolution for the face of russian interest 10 by the have the on the goes to to came out just to give the brandy and tomorrow if you don't mind because we need to keep on track with this particular discussion, we don't have very long to get to the ultimate let me bring it in to an a k. at this stage you'll the embrace those was is the block saying about best bell. there was a unanimous from the mission of israel and uh, just uh, uh, quotes on the. busy issue to tell you that georgia, that these lawyers adults do are each will jo provider to destroy the chance of do you have georgia to uh, to become a member even to start negotiating? it's about the membership, the nubian union. so the person who's so from the, from the majority party and she should be updated on her personal and talking

points when she's comparing the more to the existing laws of the west, some different western democracies, the leader of the georgia dream yesterday said that the target was explicitly the way, so it is impossible to understand this extremely ambiguous and it's a, this is kind of a, i don't know or causally contradictory, to say that the georgia is adopting you. the most it case you want to use the, the, the, the, to, to the georgia dream is now to qualify. i'll do a position as a forwarding address is to cure him who do time in georgia. this is a very clear that continues to the language that was, that is used also in bellows and these kind of countries. so every, each reaction on coming from brussels from the capital is billy harris also from washington was know this law is not something that we have in our legislation. this

is something that is the pace of the russian law. and no, there was no secret that never georgia since the 2012 has a found any russian spies any russian agents in 12 years. where in everywhere the world in all democracies, they are there and lots of findings of reference, a spice or russian influence network. never georgia has ever mentioned us as a, as a, as a, as a source to, to georgia's democracy. and all the west is now considered as the threat to georgia democracy, which is something also okay, ma'am, i want to that. now address that same question to you again when you head directly from brussels, the you is saying this bill is likely to destroy negotiations for georgia's accession to e u membership. is that something that concerns the georgia dream policy? um, 1st of all, georgia dream parts. it is the,

the only powerful as in the tech support association. all the key milestones we tried towards your broken integrations, talking from association agreements, the dfcs visa liberalization, as well as the steps as we remember also last year. when those who are aware lead to previous to government, those members of the problem where kelley says, if we do not release former president from present, and by the way, he's not to present as i can say next, we will not get the candidate successes. but the fact was different, right? so we see that. so sometimes it helps only about the, the few members of the problem if you are talking about and initiating the resolution. but it's all about the priest, the polls and key values, which we're sliding for towards the european union. we know that by every day, and we, i like to definitely say this is the arrow perceptions and anyone can create the

perceptions towards the award russian is a. so i was a, uh, it's kind of a damaging because the georgia dream was the party who has raised system motions and who also receive up to society a by retreat has around 90 percent support to european union. and then i saw a membership. i think the majority major, your foreign x rays, and we have to look at the evidence. the ok, well the now let's just bring cash we had. so put back to have a, you know, we have my, i'm saying the georgia dream policy is still storage. the pro europe, it broke georgia to the canada that states us at the end of last year and it remains so what do you say to that as well? unfortunately, i mean, i can say that the murray i'm has very upper arguments about because they don't have arguments. first of all, drugs in the such as the tentative sounds you're rep can you and yeah, but, but,

but the people of georgia who last year just, you know, they had serious protests and money for station, especially youngsters. they gave the russian law against this for an agent law. and actually by the end of march, 2023 georgian green said that that they will never going to be back to this slow again. i mean, so they broke. the problem is again to george young people. so this year and actually to attend the dentist said to so, i mean, we go to a lot of friends invitations from the european union then. yes, i mean, we have to be in compliance with the, with the line of, with the recommendation i'm working on stage. so these are commendations that'd been broken again by the georgia 3 inches. and the number one is the it brings up these 4 in agents law again. so when we're talking about the growth in union ending to ration so, but surely i have to run my call to remind my paulding and also your audience was probably not very much aware of the dispute. and you're a deluxe. your united states sanction. former prosecutor general parts how loud but

uh and say that the parts, colorado who used to be the very close associate. so be the name of an issue of the and the general persecutor. who was the russians pipe? actually a position and the lots of plus people society and joe. oh, so i mean i'm the george young people be requesting think this the geisha in against is russian supply protocol lot but, but unfortunately, i mean, we never received and got your response for gen 3. and so they covered the front color advantage the harvard was forward, they coverage with national bank. so when it's up to 12 parents, the and my colleagues said talking about so far as they know it's not. so because i mean we have, i mean the, probably the most on trust perente clip talk for the fiber meant with the only bird can. so i have to say that the opinion integration and nature integration, it will be on the threads. so that's why a lot of people have been protesting outside the problem and for the bad just now. and to tell you the georgia dream already dropped this bill. last year because of

all these shoes protests against it. so why is it picked it up again? now you're pretty tons to know much better than european union. what use you will just have which is not so even 90 percent of your opinion and come back as well to groups us because your opinions so it is unbelievable when it comes to association agreement isn't defined the compressor free trade agreement. these agreements were prepared by the previous government and only signed by the con government, so they shouldn't say to the benefits boards that everyone remembers how, how we, how we talk. and when, when you're being union and gave you the candidate stuff as to georgia, it was a geopolitical decision. you political decision because you didn't want georgia to state. also they stop coming and the large one's a weight and the it was given the providing but the 9 very clear and the completion of what's going to be applied in georgia by the georgia that was

coming to your question. yes, the board was abandoned last year, but this year, do you have so grateful elections in october? and so as the leader of georgians, we've yesterday playing the key proposed the slow game. no. to introduce to positions. he never human them. he's not lying about this is a business, he said, a society, an independent spread out of the 49 years and he needs to move to we can them before the election. what, what he said, the key in 10 seconds. a secondary question is that a georgia needs, so russia needs to see from georgia, a sign of allegiance and loyalty. and these kind of most article people told me in georgia but or indifference. former soviet countries were all the russian reports, and this he says, fine allegiance to russia and demonstration of loyalty. why never russia is never

mentioned as it corrects george's independence, george russell, i just 20 percent of georgia surgery. and the biggest threat to georgia is the and yours and repress that receives more than 20 percent of the budget and from the, from the with. okay, so the pulse that over to you, what is the exact threats coming from n g a is, 1st of all we have to say that the, uh, the, i have to respond that it was prepared by the previous government. so when we came into power that they were saying like to yours, they really pack the of the students and i bring a signature from the other power was the, the one to talk to really working on it. by the time i was working, go to these pace, minnes bellevue integration. so i remember the, the faces myself when. 6 talking about the dropping of the legislation, i have to say that 1st of all, i know the issue was the stuff up by in georgia is 3700000 people. we have

25000. thank goes uh, working to the capital. and this is the, the highest number pick, copy times x, comparing to every rock in, in every country. on the other side, we have to also notice that the com thank so far for instance, where the receipts will be so hard to say. here we have the n g of what participate thinking political decision making, going to do both. but and transparency of those organizational said when talking of individually with the, the practice. i mean, they cannot even name at least one sentence from the law, which she's saying does more than transfer when we drop the to all the so low because is a game big, i think they should send and calling everything. ok, so, so the resolution which was the 14th the ukraine when these are the works package which was initiated by our call me see if you price support resolution the names

and run digits, lashan resolution. and this is like a part of this ever thank you. may be bustle can be named the russian, so this is the branding and the typical branding of the sink, much as ation. and other thing, why do we have drop is listed there were a list of one plus francis and this you directly. meanwhile, we have the to a live, but you can go to e d. this is the rock in a funder of who would, who are mainly financing be. thank goes to come directly, goes to this website and see that after 2021. there is no to not the data about the projects we say are right, cost. yeah. okay. so let's just bring time to now and then. um, so what is the concern about this bill's impact on n g a is and civil society more broadly in georgia? well, i'm wondering why um ms. laska doesnt response about the name of initially,

i mean the chair of the well let me know board chair for her because i mean, she doesn't something else to worry about. dude. actually when we're talking about the trust 1st of the money, nobody knows how did you know of an issue of there and a lot of money in russia in the 90s. and i don't think that the rush line ninety's is frustrating. it would be the name of industry and it had been doing there was so trust for rent that day. you have tomorrow, right. i'm in the bottle brown to talk about the swap. sorry, cathy has mentioned the phones of georgia dream policy, the ex prime minister even has really a number of times today. could you just give us an idea of how influential he is when his sentiments night, because he was very pro your opinion, is he now more pro from lead and, and why he's way of most on the political front lines now. he's personal. well, so you, so something according to forces magazine, something like 6 b, and so for dollars and george's annual gdp,

16 billions. so we can imagine the rest of your piece, well, send a manual gdp over the cost, which is uh, higher in the world. it's even higher than blue nato salon. i don't even know this comes to your page. so yeah, they do all the minnesota salt georgia dream, all the members of the georgia dream, unapproved personal. the buyers visited between the shootings. and i don't know who told you that he was you appear, georgia population is for europeans and the georgia dream has to pay attention to the majority of joining population. 80 percent of georgia's are for european union, so they cannot directly attacking virginia. that's why they are at. busy thing, these are really and strategies saying you won't be as bad, but we'll, we won't euro so this is that they try to maintain descent. did you see that it doesn't work anymore because they are switching directly. i talked to the european union on the west and just the last point when, when the game,

the person from the majority a said that she works for the association agreement. i'm sorry, i was the chief negotiator. maybe she doesn't remember, but i was never, she's there for 2 years on hall in this negotiate and so like, i don't remember either, but i don't know. maybe she was doing a power with negotiations. okay. okay. uh let's, that's not, that's title is the story. okay. that guys want to bring mary, i'm into to as a further discussion for a little bit now because we've got these problem entry elections do. in october the georgia dream will be seeking a full time in the office. will it be a free and fair election? my room yes. as soon as this wednesday or live action was the best buy or the or the or less the election as well. but on the, i didn't know to be helpful to mention that the georgia dream is the, uh,

the party who has main russia and one be a core to 5 boards, a tool against russia. and if the government on the country or whoever is the pro russian, they cannot do all the kind of feature in our track record. once we have a last shot for, 1st of all, we need to be course for me to national i, to my courts as well. even though the previous regime sign there was a lucian squared bank has named our own soldiers of parsing board, even though they're not gonna have to jump into the so that when you have one hatch . yeah. what, what she thinks about these elections that are coming up, that's the election unto but elections will georgians dream when a full time in office? well, let me show you. i mean, i'm very sorry about my colleague because she doesn't have their dement. so she has to prepare a better, but actually i can say yes. so they did, you know, but it's really, i had again just on the lines that the, for he,

there are 2 very important factors for the next election is central election commission. and it's the ports and $200.00, both of them today actually the georgia dream had voted for the new sunflower exchange commission had the which is up. so it's, it's a bird united to the door, jens, remind me by initially. and i have to on the line that they, she said that does these 2 elements are very much reports and heard that you want to really mean a thing. goes and civil society not to bring the, the inter nation of all observers and to eliminate all of us and your school wants to really and had the credits ation and license to really just observe that margaret has the, again to print up the old server is yeah, because we have run out of time of thank you very much to our expect today for a lively discussion. indeed, it does highlight the divisions in georgia at the moment, but he,

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